Gearhead, or just enthusiast if you can drive it, work on it or admire it chances are we've got your fix.
Showing posts with label NOx. Show all posts
Showing posts with label NOx. Show all posts
Saturday, December 7, 2019
Wednesday, October 28, 2015
Formula vs Smog Check: 2nd Time not the charm
The story so far. My 1995 Formula failed it's emissions test. We did some diagnostics and found out that the EGR, PCV, and Fuel Pressure regulator were all bad. We also knew from the first test that the major problem with the car was it was running too rich.
There was also a suspicious rattling under the car which upon inspection showed a problem with the catalytic converter. It's the original and a couple of soft taps with a rubber mallet confirmed it.
So after more diagnostics that involved chasing down vacuum leaks, replacing any crispy hoses I could find that were causing them, checking the EGR solenoid and changing the oil it was finally time to try again.
The first test a month earlier gave us readings of:
HC 1.57 .8 is the max
CO 13.77 12.0 is the max
NOx 5.99 2.0 is the max
Today's second pass at it:
HC 1.57 .8 is the max
CO 15.57 12.0 is the max
NOx 4.59 2.0 is the max
It's also another indication (in addition to reduced NOx) that the EGR is working since it's recirculating exhaust vapor back into the combustion process. It's taking that raw and partially burned gas and adding it back in just as the EGR system is designed to do.
The problem is that the exhaust is so rich with fuel that it adds to the CO problem. HC stays the same because we're not adding any more raw fuel into the exhaust stream. That any reading stayed the same across 2 tests a month apart also indicates that the catalytic converter is doing virtually nothing to help us. It's also indicative that our rich mixture is being caused by something other than what's been fixed.

I'll cut to the chase. We've still got an over-fueling problem and it's likely related to a leaky fuel injector. Admittedly, all I have to back up my diagnosis is some fuel injection tools, a multi-meter and a code scanner that works with OBD1.
And a bit of experience...
Before I changed the Fuel Pressure Regulator I'd have intermittent long starts when the car was cold. With some of the fuel pressure bypassing the rail for places less useful it wasn't a surprise.
What was a surprise had to do with warm starts. I thought my fuel pressure problems were over but noticed longer starts (more cranking) after the car sat for a short period of time (15 minutes to an hour).
That has everything to do with the fuel rail bleeding off pressure when the car was warm. Remember that when the engine's cold the fuel pump will prime the rail but when it's warm it shouldn't need to. So when it does it has to build up pressure again.
I also noticed that during these longer warm starts I'd sometimes see a bit of grey smoke out of the exhausts. That told me there was un-burned fuel in the cylinders. With the engine off the only way that can happen is if something is dripping fuel into them.

Something like a leaky fuel injector. Which is the likely cause of my over-fueling issue. Of course without a scan tool that can read fuel trim or at least the state of the O2 sensors it's still a guess.
The only way to know for sure without one is to pull the injectors out of the manifold while still attached to the fuel rail. Then turn the key on and prime them to see if they leak. That's a story for the next installment. Yes, I can put my fuel pressure gauge on the rail but that only tells me there's a problem on the rail not where it is.
So that's the story up to now. I'm convinced I have a leaky injector and a bad catalytic converter even given my limited resources to diagnose the problem.
But when I got the results for the second test which I half expected to be a disappointment anyway something struck me.
Those results I showed you earlier? They're absolutely useless for diagnosis. All I know is that the car failed. For all that time and trouble I have no indication what the conditions of the failure were.
In Arizona it's always been that way as I'm sure it is in other parts of the country. But like everything else that's supposed to be "progressive" in the state Arizona's managed to turn it into a profit center.
Which is a great segue to the video below. It's a bit of rant but for me it was a bit of an epiphany as well.
Stay tuned!
Posted by
Digital Dynamic
at
7:40 AM
Labels:
Arizona,
catalytic converter,
co,
dyno,
emissions,
failure,
hc,
leaky injector,
NOx,
racket,
readings,
scam,
testing

Saturday, October 10, 2015
Formula Vs. Smog Check: EGR sadness
Last time I pretty much laid out my dilemma. 20 year old car, Emissions testing Nazis,
questioning my life choices...
So I won't rehash it here.
It's a problem anyone with a car roughly the same vintage as their parent's high
school diploma knows well.
This time we're going to attack the root cause of our NOx
failure at the emissions testing station.
If you recall, the standard for a 95 Formula in Arizona is 2.00 and I
managed to crush the scales at 5.99.
There are two primary emissions systems that contribute to
this failure. The first is the EGR or
Exhaust Gas Recirculation valve and the second is the Catalytic Converter.
As I see it, the Catalytic converter is a secondary emissions component. Meant to clean up whatever
the other primary systems left behind.
There are exceptions such as certain vehicles that eliminate the EGR
altogether and incorporate similar functionality within the intake system of
the engine itself.
But most of us with older cars will still have to deal with
the tried and true EGR valve.
Considering it's exposed to constant exhaust heat, depends on a seal
made of rubber and failure of said seal negates its function you're going to
have to deal with it at some point.
The good news is that at least on mid 90's GM F Body cars ( 93-97 Firebird/Camaro) with an LT1 V8
the diagnosis and replacement is straightforward.
I should clarify here.
Diagnosis is easy, replacement would be easy if you could somehow wrest
the engine out of the car in under 5 minutes.
That's not going to happen in a 4th generation F Body.
But enough of that...
The EGR's function is to circulate exhaust gases back into
the combustion chamber to cool it down.
Combustion temperatures above 2500F cause NOx, a noxious gas that creates excess ozone and irritates respiratory ailments among other things.
Combustion temperatures above 2500F cause NOx, a noxious gas that creates excess ozone and irritates respiratory ailments among other things.
So the emissions Nazis are gunning for you if your car
exceeds their standards.
On the 4th Gen F body LT1 (V8) cars the EGR is located on the back of the intake manifold in
pretty much the most inaccessible location GM could come up with.
Now if Camaros or Firebirds had hoods that tilted forward ( like the same vintage Corvettes do) it
would be no big deal. Thing is, these
cars are cursed with about a foot of bodywork hanging over the engine. Thank that 60 degree windshield for that one.
Still, you can deal with the EGR and the Fuel pressure
regulator as well ( since it's in the
same location) so long as you're willing to lay across the front of the car
to get to them.
Which is what I had to do to replace mine.
But we're jumping ahead here.
Before we start turning wrenches we need to figure out if we
need to.
Assuming the rest of your emissions components are working
within specification, high NOx generally only comes from the aforementioned
high combustion temperatures caused by a bad CAT or EGR valve.
The simplest test for a bad EGR is to stick a vacuum pump on
the vacuum port on top of the EGR and give a few pumps. If it doesn't hold vacuum it's junk, no
exceptions. The EGR relies on a flexible
diaphragm that moves in and out as vacuum is applied to it.
That diaphragm operates a rod ( pintle ) that allows a measured amount of exhaust gas to recirculate
in the combustion chamber which helps cool it down and decrease NOx emissions.
If that pintle doesn't move then NOx can run rampant.
The other reason the EGR system can fail is if the EGR
passages in the manifold become clogged up.
If the exhaust gas can't get to the combustion chamber it can't cool it down.
It can also cause the engine to run too lean ( too much air not enough fuel ) which can
increase HC emissions as well.
Vacuum leaks can contribute to high HC and NOx as well and a
torn diaphragm in a 3 inch disk is a pretty big leak.
So now we know the problem, the solution is pretty
simple.
Replace the valve...
While you're at it, check out the EGR passages and clean
them out if they're full of crud( as best
you can considering where the EGR is.)
Removal is easy, 2 (1/2 inch) nuts on a couple of studs. Of course getting to them requires draping
yourself across the front of the car but once you get positioned, it's not so
bad. I'd also recommend the use of an
offset boxed end wrench since the bolts are partially shrouded by the EGR
"disc."
Pop it off, remove the gasket, clean up the mating surfaces ( there's likely to be a sticky film left by
the old gasket) and clean out the EGR passage of any carbon build up. Then just bolt the new one on, torque the
bolts down and reconnect the EGR vacuum line and you're done!
Really not much more to it.
Below is a video that outlines the diagnosis and testing
procedures.
Subscribe to:
Posts (Atom)